Tadd's Ebay Searches
I've been using these searches to find decent priced radios.
If you are patient, these things come around.
Search for "sold listings" on ebay to see what these have gone for before and how often.
You will have to log-in to eBay to see these (I think).
Note on commercial surplus radios
The surplus radios are excellent units.
They are made for dump-truck duty and operated by people who don't care.
They can easily survive the abuses we hams will put on them.
They are not as versatile or pretty as the Japanese ham radios. However, compared to anything made by the Chinese vendors these are really obviously a better deal.
The radio shown to the right is a TK862G. This particular one only tuned receive down to 441.8.
That means any repeater whose output is less than 441.8 wouldn't be heard or would be heard badly.
Also, the radio incessantly beeps when dialed to a channel lower than 441.8.
Since all of the local repeaters are above 442.0Mhz, this isn't a problem.
This particular unit is programmed with 8 channels, 7 of which are repeaters. The leftmost bottom botton is the MON switch which causes the squelch to open.
The squelch control is configured by the computer so we program it somewhat tight. The MON switch bypasses the squelch for weak signals.
One of the other buttons is "TALK-AROUND%quot; which causes the radio to transmit and receive on the repeater output, instead of using the programmed repeater split.
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The microphone is very very robust and uses a 6 pin telephone-like cable with RJ12 connectors on each end.
I am not a die-hard commercial-only user. See my QRZ page for hamshack photos. I do, however, own 30 or so of these Kenwoods for my packet radio projects.
For $50 you can get a 25 watt mobile radio that will take lots of abuse and will sound great.
For about $15 you can get the programming cable -- I have one you are welcome to use.
Beware that if the radio needs MSDOS (see my notes) to program, you can't use a USB cable.
You'll need a DE9 RS232 cable.
These radios are really inexpensive for what they are because the FCC jerked around the rules and made these radios useless to commercial mobile radio service,
or in some cases they just made the whole process uneconomical. While the newer of these radios were shipping to dealers, the cellphone revolution was making them pointless.
These radios came onto the surplus market by the truckload several years ago. We're now seeing the 2nd hand surplus dealer.
The 1st hand dealers bought hundreds and sold them off untested for $10 to $20 but usually in quantity or at the bigger swap fests, like Dayton/Xenia Ohio.
Here is a website on understanding the Kenwood model numbers
Below you will find my Ebay searches to find these things.
I cherry picked the models which are my favorites but also included related units which have more channels.
I expect to be able to program any of the units mentioned.
I make it clear which ones I've actually used.
Other people may have different sets of tools for working with the radios.
For instance, each brand needs its own programming cable.
Some companies used different cables, each of which covered several models.
I have the cables for these models.
Use a search engine to find images of what these radios look like.
Include the brand name in addition to the model number when you search else you get very interesting things which aren't radios.
If you are going to bid on one of these, please alert the rest of us by posting on the Facebook page so other hams don't compete with you.
If somebody else says they are going to bid on one of these and you want it, please negotiate.
Don't snipe it from each other.
Some of the best deals are from people who said they couldn't test the radios.
So far I've had pretty good luck with them.
But, if somebody says the radio was tested and failed.. or says they don't include critical items, like most of the radio, then don't bid on them.
Make sure you are bidding on one of the radios mentioned.
Ebay will show you other equipment after the end of your search results.
Caveat: Your millage may very. Don't spend money you can't afford and it is your money. Read carefully.
If you have any doubts, catch me on 444.525.
I'm fine with emails too.
See my QRZ page.
--- KA2DEW
Ebay Searches
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Icom IC-735 IC-761 HF rigs - worth $300 or more.
Do research on the web to see what these things look like and how well they are regarded.
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Icom IC-T7H or IC-P7A - either is worth $80 including shipping. I own two of the IC-P7A. Research them on the web.
They are really easy to use and have lasted over a decade, but they are rather low power compared to a $300 HT or one of the junky Chinese units.
Check out the photos and specs of both radios.
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Diplexer or Triplexers
Comet or Diamond Triplexer goes for under $50 including shipping, but not very often.
I've seen them for $30 including shipping.
Comet and Diamond triplexers are $65 or more from the dealers, plus shipping depending on how much is in your order.
The Comet or Diamond 1.3mhz-160mhz + 350mhz-500mhz + 850mhz-1300mhz is also sometimes available for under $50.
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Kenwood TK705 + TK760 + TK805 + TK860 +related
- verify that these are -1 units. If so, then with microphone they are worth $50 including shipping.
Stay away from models with a "(N)" designation.
These are Kenwood commercial radios that can be front panel programmed into the ham band.
So far none of these have needed tuning to work in the ham band.
The Kenwood application which programs them runs on an MSDOS computer.
For hams local to Raleigh, I (KA2DEW) can program these.
With advanced notice I'll meet you, maybe at one of the RARS meetings?
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Kenwood TK760G + TK860G +related
- verify that these are -1 units. If so, then with microphone the 440 units are worth $70 including shipping.
The VHF hi-band (2 meter) units are also worth quite a bit but you can buy a brand new Kenwood or Alinco 60+watt 2 meter rig for $150 so use judgement here.
These are 25 watt commercial radios that can be directly programmed into the ham band using an MSWindows base Kenwood application.
I've programmed and used the TK762G and TK862G models. These are 8 channel, around 25 watts. I've had 12 of them pass through my hands. Only one couldn't cover all of the repeater band.
All of them worked though since then one of the front panels has been jarred lose from the radio. It may have been damaged when I got it and didn't notice. The radio still works, but the connectors aren't quite right.
The 863G is a 256 channel radio and I expect I can program it. I have never had one. Ditto the 763G, 860G and 760G.
Stay away from models with a "(N)" designation.
For hams local to Raleigh, I (KA2DEW) can program these.
With advanced notice I'll meet you, maybe at one of the RARS meetings?
Warning: Some of these units don't tune all the way down to 440.00.
They may have trouble below 446 or so.
Those units may be salvaged for packet radio linking purposes.
Almost all of the units which I've seen work down to 440.00 or lower.
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Kenwood TK-760HG + TK-860HG +related
- verify that these are -1 units. If so, then with microphone they are worth $80 including shipping.
Note that the units ending in 2 are only 8 channels. Units ending in 0 or 3 are more channels.
Stay away from models with a "(N)" designation.
These are commercial radios that can be directly programmed into the ham band using an MSWindows base Kenwood application.
The H at the end of the model name indicates large heat-sink and slightly more power.
Up to 40 watts.
These are programmed identically to the 25 watt models. I've only ever used the TK862GH. I expect I can program any of the others. I just haven't had one to try.
For hams local to Raleigh, I (KA2DEW) can program these.
With advanced notice I'll meet you, maybe at one of the RARS meetings?
Warning: Some of these units don't tune all the way down to 440.00.
They may have trouble below 446 or so.
Those units may be salvaged for packet radio linking purposes.
Almost all of the units which I've seen work down to 440.00 or lower.
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Kenwood TK780 + TK780H + TK880 + TK880H +related
These are 25 watt units, or 40 watts H and they have a text display good enough for repeater identification.
Look for the -1 in the FCC ID or in the model name.
They are probably worth $80 or so.
For hams local to Raleigh, I (KA2DEW) can program these.
With advanced notice I'll meet you, maybe at one of the RARS meetings?
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Vertex 6m FTL-1011, 2m FTL-2011, 440 FTL-7011 - worth $50 including shipping if microphone included
These units need to be tuned to the ham band but the tuning operation is pretty trivial.
For hams local to Raleigh, I (KA2DEW) can program these.
There are several hams in the area who can program and tune these.
Catch me, KA2DEW, on the 444.525 repeater or send me email at my qrz address.
Kenwood TK radios supported by CHIRP
The full list of all TK Kenwood radios supported by CHIRP
- TK-260/270/272/278
- TK-260G/270G/272G/278G
- TK-360/370/372/378
- TK-360G/370G/372G/378G/388G
- TK-760/762/768
- TK-760G/762G/768G
- TK-860/862/868
- TK-860G/862G/868G
- TK-7102/8102/7108/8108
Info about the TK86xHG radios
- GENERAL Frequency Range
- K,M : 450 to 490MHz
- K2 : 485 to 512MHz
- K3,M3 : 400 to 430MHz
- Number of Channels
- TK-862HG : Maximum 8 channels
- TK-860HG : Maximum 128 channels
- Number of Groups
- TK-860HG : Maximum 128 groups
- Channel Spacing
- Wide : 25kHz
- Narrow : 12.5kHz
- PLL Channel Stepping
- Operating Voltage
- Current Drain
- Less than 0.4A on standby
- Less than 1.0A on receive
- Less than 12.0A on transmit
- Operating Temperature Range
- –30°C to +60°C (–22°F to +140°F)
- Dimensions & Weight
- 140 (5-33/64) W x 40 (1-37/64) H x 173 (6-52/64) D mm (inch), 1050g (2.31 lbs)
- Channel Frequency Spread
- 40MHz RECEIVER (Measurements made per EIA standard EIA/TIA-204-D)
- Sensitivity (12dB SINAD)
- Wide : 0.28µV
- Narrow : 0.35µV
- Selectivity
- Intermodulation
- Spurious Responce
- Audio Power Output
- Frequency Stability
- ±2.5ppm TRANSMITTER (Measurements made per EIA standard EIA-152-C)
- RF Power Output
- Spurious and Harmonics
- Modulation
- Wide : 16K0F3E
- Narrow : 11K0F3E
- FM Noise
- Audio Distortion
- Frequency Stability